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	<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The day the immigrants left by Glenn</title>
		<link>http://migrantsrights.org.uk/blog/index.php/2010/02/25/the-day-the-immigrants-left/comment-page-1/#comment-314</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This program felt like a failed reality TV episode, mixed with a bit of chattering classes tut-tutting and some dubious politics about alleged dole scroungers. A lot of the reviews and articles it inspired do show the big problem with a lot of left and liberal politics at the moment. I get the impression that the dominant strain is embarrassment about and dislike of actual proles. Lot's of the coverage in papers like guardian has been along the lines of "migrants are so hard working, unlike our thick, idle bigoted lot, despair woe and whinge".  The other point is, is just me who finds the infatuation with eastern-European migrants from both the left and right a little bit "Aryan supermen our heroes",  Like, these are good migrants, these a white migrants!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This program felt like a failed reality TV episode, mixed with a bit of chattering classes tut-tutting and some dubious politics about alleged dole scroungers. A lot of the reviews and articles it inspired do show the big problem with a lot of left and liberal politics at the moment. I get the impression that the dominant strain is embarrassment about and dislike of actual proles. Lot&#8217;s of the coverage in papers like guardian has been along the lines of &#8220;migrants are so hard working, unlike our thick, idle bigoted lot, despair woe and whinge&#8221;.  The other point is, is just me who finds the infatuation with eastern-European migrants from both the left and right a little bit &#8220;Aryan supermen our heroes&#8221;,  Like, these are good migrants, these a white migrants!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The day the immigrants left by Ruth Grove-White</title>
		<link>http://migrantsrights.org.uk/blog/index.php/2010/02/25/the-day-the-immigrants-left/comment-page-1/#comment-301</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth Grove-White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, it was a very thought-provoking programme.I read a review of the prog by a Guardian journalist this morning who had been very unimpressed by the performance of the local Wisbech unemployed in trying - and, for some, failing - to successfully replace migrant workers in local businesses for 48 hours. Read that review at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2010/feb/25/damages-the-day-the-immigrants-left 

Sure, a couple of participants didn't try very hard to take part. One didn't even turn up for his trial job at all. But most really did, and largely motivated by a visible sense of frustration at being unemployed. I came away feeling that both residents and new arrivals to Wisbech are caught up in much bigger problems arising from economic demands for cheap and flexible labour in often back-breaking conditions. It is migrants, rather than locals, who are inevitably willing to provide it, but can either be blamed for that? 

After that prog was a lively Newsnight interview which saw Immigration Minister Phil Woolas pitted against his Conservative counterpart Damien Green... and also facing a dressing down from a local unemployed man called Paul from Wisbech, who had taken part in the main show with gusto. Paul was angry and said he'd been let down by the lack of support in getting him back into work - comments which Woolas dismissed, insisting that the government is already providing adequate support to get the long-term unemployed in the UK tooled up for jobs. You could practically see Paul's blood start to boil as he started shouting at the minister that none of this support had come his way.

Green's response to Paul was even worse - he talked pompously about the importance of forcing lazy 'scroungers' off benefits and into work.  With such political responses, it is no wonder that the 'blame the migrants' argument holds some currency among unemployed people in areas like Wisbech, however unpleasant it may be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, it was a very thought-provoking programme.I read a review of the prog by a Guardian journalist this morning who had been very unimpressed by the performance of the local Wisbech unemployed in trying - and, for some, failing - to successfully replace migrant workers in local businesses for 48 hours. Read that review at: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2010/feb/25/damages-the-day-the-immigrants-left" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2010/feb/25/damages-the-day-the-immigrants-left</a> </p>
<p>Sure, a couple of participants didn&#8217;t try very hard to take part. One didn&#8217;t even turn up for his trial job at all. But most really did, and largely motivated by a visible sense of frustration at being unemployed. I came away feeling that both residents and new arrivals to Wisbech are caught up in much bigger problems arising from economic demands for cheap and flexible labour in often back-breaking conditions. It is migrants, rather than locals, who are inevitably willing to provide it, but can either be blamed for that? </p>
<p>After that prog was a lively Newsnight interview which saw Immigration Minister Phil Woolas pitted against his Conservative counterpart Damien Green&#8230; and also facing a dressing down from a local unemployed man called Paul from Wisbech, who had taken part in the main show with gusto. Paul was angry and said he&#8217;d been let down by the lack of support in getting him back into work - comments which Woolas dismissed, insisting that the government is already providing adequate support to get the long-term unemployed in the UK tooled up for jobs. You could practically see Paul&#8217;s blood start to boil as he started shouting at the minister that none of this support had come his way.</p>
<p>Green&#8217;s response to Paul was even worse - he talked pompously about the importance of forcing lazy &#8217;scroungers&#8217; off benefits and into work.  With such political responses, it is no wonder that the &#8216;blame the migrants&#8217; argument holds some currency among unemployed people in areas like Wisbech, however unpleasant it may be.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Immigration debate and local councils by Don Flynn</title>
		<link>http://migrantsrights.org.uk/blog/index.php/2010/02/16/immigration-debate-and-local-councils/comment-page-1/#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Flynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my blog I asked how the FT's story would run if it was picked up in the Daily Mail. Well, here's the answer. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1251480/Continued-immigrant-boom-stretching-council-resources.html?ITO=1708&amp;referrer=yahoo) 

Can we ask the Local Government Association to clarify what the situation really is?

About the way the press is reporting the statements made by Council leaders on the impacts of migration, here's how the Daily Express have chosen to run the story (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/158620/We-just-can-t-cope-with-immigration-boom-say-councils).

It's interesting that the latter part of the story introduces a bit more balance into the picture, with the quote from the Local Government Association person saying that immigration brings billions into the UK economy each year, but the problem is that these benefits are so poorly distributed. So how do we move what is essential a criticism of the bigger system up from the sub-text into the headlines? 

Any ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my blog I asked how the FT&#8217;s story would run if it was picked up in the Daily Mail. Well, here&#8217;s the answer. (<a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1251480/Continued-immigrant-boom-stretching-council-resources.html?ITO=1708&amp;referrer=yahoo" title="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1251480/Continued-immigrant-boom-stretching-council-resources.html?ITO=1708&amp;referrer=yahoo" target="_blank">www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1251480/Continued-immigrant-boom-stretching-council-resources.html?ITO=1708&amp;referrer=yahoo</a>) </p>
<p>Can we ask the Local Government Association to clarify what the situation really is?</p>
<p>About the way the press is reporting the statements made by Council leaders on the impacts of migration, here&#8217;s how the Daily Express have chosen to run the story (<a href="http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/158620/We-just-can-t-cope-with-immigration-boom-say-councils" title="http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/158620/We-just-can-t-cope-with-immigration-boom-say-councils" target="_blank">www.express.co.uk/posts/view/158620/We-just-can-t-cope-with-immigration-boom-say-councils</a>).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting that the latter part of the story introduces a bit more balance into the picture, with the quote from the Local Government Association person saying that immigration brings billions into the UK economy each year, but the problem is that these benefits are so poorly distributed. So how do we move what is essential a criticism of the bigger system up from the sub-text into the headlines? </p>
<p>Any ideas?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Immigration debate and local councils by Ruth Grove-White</title>
		<link>http://migrantsrights.org.uk/blog/index.php/2010/02/16/immigration-debate-and-local-councils/comment-page-1/#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth Grove-White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's how that story ran in the Daily Express today...

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/158620/We-just-can-t-cope-with-immigration-boom-say-councils</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s how that story ran in the Daily Express today&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/158620/We-just-can-t-cope-with-immigration-boom-say-councils" rel="nofollow">http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/158620/We-just-can-t-cope-with-immigration-boom-say-councils</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Home Secretary makes sudden changes affecting foreign students by Ruth Grove-White</title>
		<link>http://migrantsrights.org.uk/blog/index.php/2010/02/09/home-secretary-makes-sudden-changes-affecting-foreign-students/comment-page-1/#comment-240</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth Grove-White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UKBA website has just been updated with details of the changes made to Tier 4 for foreign students. See their website for more...

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/newsarticles/2010/February/tougher-rules-for-foreign-stud</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UKBA website has just been updated with details of the changes made to Tier 4 for foreign students. See their website for more&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/newsarticles/2010/February/tougher-rules-for-foreign-stud" rel="nofollow">http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/newsarticles/2010/February/tougher-rules-for-foreign-stud</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Home Secretary makes sudden changes affecting foreign students by Ruth Grove-White</title>
		<link>http://migrantsrights.org.uk/blog/index.php/2010/02/09/home-secretary-makes-sudden-changes-affecting-foreign-students/comment-page-1/#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth Grove-White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the link for the interview transcript between Marr and Johnson:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8502896.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the link for the interview transcript between Marr and Johnson:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8502896.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8502896.stm</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Home Secretary makes sudden changes affecting foreign students by Spencer Gutermuth</title>
		<link>http://migrantsrights.org.uk/blog/index.php/2010/02/09/home-secretary-makes-sudden-changes-affecting-foreign-students/comment-page-1/#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Gutermuth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering if you have the url for the source?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering if you have the url for the source?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mayor of London and migrant regularisation by Kumar</title>
		<link>http://migrantsrights.org.uk/blog/index.php/2009/06/22/mayor-of-london-and-migrant-regularisation/comment-page-1/#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 12:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article on migrant regularisation printed on various Newspapers and articulates are no where near the real hardships faced by these so called illegal immigrants.  The policy when formulated at the Govt. level need to be based on the facts and the true findings. One such daft proposal for instance is :- " The person to be eligible to qualify under the Long term Residency Scheme previously operative was 14 years (legal and illegal stay combined) ".  Now if you study the findings,  If a person had been doing continous 4 years legal work then he would automatically qualify. In other cases , as a student , he would qualify after 10 years legal stay. But 14 years  is like 2 life terms and what makes it more unrealistic is that with the surprises of being caught - How does the Govt. expect some one to go unescaped for 14 long years.  As though it wasn't worse enough , now they have removed the policy of granting Legality status to parents of children who were born and been in this country for more than seven years.   From the above , what is understood is Govt. is being partial in making policies as it does not consider these illegal immigrants  and their families  as human beings.  Some organised body need to provide the Govt. departments with actual assessment of what's going on in the lives of these so called illegal immigrants.  May be those not wanting these scores of people getting a Legal status have got some thing to benefit only if these people remain as they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article on migrant regularisation printed on various Newspapers and articulates are no where near the real hardships faced by these so called illegal immigrants.  The policy when formulated at the Govt. level need to be based on the facts and the true findings. One such daft proposal for instance is :- &#8221; The person to be eligible to qualify under the Long term Residency Scheme previously operative was 14 years (legal and illegal stay combined) &#8220;.  Now if you study the findings,  If a person had been doing continous 4 years legal work then he would automatically qualify. In other cases , as a student , he would qualify after 10 years legal stay. But 14 years  is like 2 life terms and what makes it more unrealistic is that with the surprises of being caught - How does the Govt. expect some one to go unescaped for 14 long years.  As though it wasn&#8217;t worse enough , now they have removed the policy of granting Legality status to parents of children who were born and been in this country for more than seven years.   From the above , what is understood is Govt. is being partial in making policies as it does not consider these illegal immigrants  and their families  as human beings.  Some organised body need to provide the Govt. departments with actual assessment of what&#8217;s going on in the lives of these so called illegal immigrants.  May be those not wanting these scores of people getting a Legal status have got some thing to benefit only if these people remain as they are.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Keele University citizenship research by Stoke Chat</title>
		<link>http://migrantsrights.org.uk/blog/index.php/2009/07/10/keele-university-citizenship-research/comment-page-1/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>Stoke Chat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some very interesting points made there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some very interesting points made there</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mayor of London and migrant regularisation by Mark</title>
		<link>http://migrantsrights.org.uk/blog/index.php/2009/06/22/mayor-of-london-and-migrant-regularisation/comment-page-1/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great report but why did the Mayor have to start talking about illegal immigrants  - has he read his own report?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great report but why did the Mayor have to start talking about illegal immigrants  - has he read his own report?</p>
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